John Sheedy and Mary Dinan

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*John 'Mangles'* Sheedy and Mary Dinan** Preface by Jenny Fawcett please note: these families are still under research and no information should be regarded as authentic unless confirmed by official sources. John Sheedy, per Mangles is alledged to be one of six brothers who came to New South Wales as transported convicts, generally attributed to their activities in political crimes in Ireland. The brothers have been the subject of a study by Mr Sydney Sheedy,a descendant of one of the brothers. This resulted in the lodgement of a manuscript at the Mitchell Library of what is generally referred to as the "Sheedy Diaries" Sydney Sheedy claims to have had access to the diaries of James Sheedy, one of the brothers, who was a member of a secret united irishman political group, and held the position of secretary. Sydney has compiled the manuscript which is supposedly a history of the United Irishmen in Australia, and includes a section relating to the Sheedy families in New South Wales. There is confusion reigning about the accuracy of Syd's attempts to relate known information on Sheedy families with those people mentioned in the diaries. Syd Sheedy claimed that John Sheedy who arrived per Mangles was married to a Mary Farraday. In 1828, John Sheedy Mangles, petitioned the governor of New South Wales to allow for his family to come to Australia. In the course of this document he states his wife was Mary Sheedy nee Dinan, that he married her during Shrovetide, in Feb 1809 at Kilfinan Co Limerick.A copy of the petition can be found at the Mitchell Library, and has been transcribed below. Syd alledged that Mrs John Sheedy returned to Ireland after the death of John, via Melbourne,on the Shamrock, having been accompanied to Melbourne by her son Thomas. There is also no evidence of this to date. A Mr and Mrs Thomas Sheedy did arrive in Melbourne from Sydney but this was Thomas Sheedy m Catherine Costello. Syd Sheedy claimed that Thomas Sheedy [m Cath Costello] was the son of John per Mangles and Mary Farraday, and that he arrived per Blenheim in 1834. Research indicates that the Thomas Sheedy who did arrive on the Blenheim was indeed John per Mangles' son, but the Thomas Sheedy who married Catherine Costello is not the same man. Thomas m Catherine Costello was a shoemaker by trade, he arrived on the Aliquis in 1839 to NSW, then moved to Victoria, he was well known to police and his gaol records confirm the name of the ship he arrived on as the Aliquis There are other Thomas Sheedy's that may fit with being the son of John,especially being Thomas m Johanna Jordan/Elizabeth Dempsey. For distanglement of the Thomas Sheedy's. see the Profile Section and research is still underway on those families. John Sheedy's wife,Mary Dinan, arrived in New South Wales per Andromeda in 1834, accompanied by her children Eleanor, Michael and Mary. Her other sons had previously arrived on the Blenheim as free immigrants. For this biography, I am using contemporary records, but there is room for more research to be done to document this family correctly. John Sheedy wrote in 1828 that character references could be obtained from Mr Oliver JP, of Kilfinnane. He is also believed to be associated with the United Irishmen. Therefore, he would have had knowledge of the Staker Wallace incident near Kilfinnane, which also mentions that the Olivers were the major landowners in the region.It might be an uncle/relative of John Sheedy who was with Oliver when they went to arrest Staker Wallace. Click Here John Sheedy - born c: c1786.Ireland. [convict indent.age 40] c1786 if John Sheedy died 1835. c1778. [1828 cencus.age 50] parents: not known. religon: Roman Catholic [convict indent] occupation: 1826.Farmers Labourer.Ireland. pre 1826. [convict indent] c1828.wood carter.South Head .NSW. also working for W.Taylor.[petition] 1834.working at the dockyards, Sydney [petition] .working for Dennis Walsh, York St Sydney. [wife's emigrant arrival] literacy: convict indent states no literacy, though petition in 1828 is written in an educated hand and signed the same by John Sheedy. death: either,John Sheedy,born c1786, died 26 August 1835.[49y] Buried Old Windsor Cemetery source: McLellands Books. Vol 4 Bk 9 or John Sheedy died 27/9/1842 buried under Faraday Sheedy Windsor Cemetery ? burial: shipping arrival: convict per Mangles,[fourth trip,] to N.S.W. arrival date: 18th Feb 1826. CONVICT NO___29 AGE__________40years CRIME________Fogery Notes note that there was also an Edward Sheehy on this vessel as a convict. married: Mary Dinan [petition ] date: February [Shrovetide] 1809,by the the Reverend Mr Dilane .Parish Priest of Kilfinan. [petition] History: 1826. transported to New South Wales per Mangles, on a charge of forging notes.It would be ideal to obtain from the newspaper in Ireland an account of his trial, charges and etc. 1828 Census: John Sheady [50] per Mangles at Telegraph .Sth Head. [ref 0596] John Sheedy per Mangles - Lighthouse. John Mangles,Mangles 1825, life - catholic - age 50 occupation: Telegraph. South Head. no's 0584] Petition: states working as a wood carter for W.Taylor.[see next] John petitions for family to be allowed to emigrate "1828.21st May . To his Excellency ,Lieutenant General Ralph Darling, Governer and Commissioner in Chief [New South Wales] The Petition of John Sheedy Most humbly sheweth that in 1826 your excellency's petitioner arrived in the Colony by the Ship Mangles [4th journey]a prisoner for life and has since been in Government Employ at South Head and has always supported a fair character as servant [to W.Taylor, to carry wood] that your Excellency's petitoner being desirous of having his family which he will be well able to support sent out to him here he most humbly solicits your Excellency's permission for that purpose and shall as in duty bound ever pray John Sheedy Sydney 6th march 1828." Jas Mitchell, Liet. in N.S.W.Royal Veterans as to Character at South Head under my charge. Petiton goes on to list marriage date, and children's ages as listed elsewhere here. Also states that references could be obtained from The Revd Mr Neville, Rector of Kilfinnan and C.D.Oliver,Equire,J.P at Kilfinnan. [src:AONSW. Colonial Secretary's In Letters 28/4059] a notation on the petition by government officials records:- Nothing records [against John Sheedy] by May 19th 1828 . Not At Present [meaning John may not have his family sent yet] 31st of May. informed for the purpose of communicating. 1834. Index to Conditional Parsons & Tickets of Leave 1810-1875 John Sheedy Mangles 1826. no 34/833 reel 938 shelf 922/4/4095 Stated in a letter to son Roger that he was working at the dockyard at Sydney. [AONSW Reel 2198. 4/2242.3 34/8275] John's wife Mary Sheedy arrives per Andromeda In a letter addressed to the Colonial Secretary which had been written by Henry Kelsall, Surgeon Superintendant of the convict ship Andromeda, he records a list of women who had arrived FREE by that vessell, and this includes the name of Mrs Sheedy,Mary stated that her husband was working for Dennis Walsh, York Street, Sydney:- Andromeda, Female Convict Ship. Port Jackson. 17th Sept 1834. Sir, I have the honor to transmit to you, a list of the free women who are on board the Andromeda, accompanied by all the information I could obtain from them, relative to their husbands. And am sir your obedient servant Henry Kelsall Surgeon Superintendant. List of Free Women & etc etc Name. /Name of Ship her husband came in./In Whose Service Mrs Sheedy. Does Not Know. with Dennis Walsh York St. Sydney " Children - 6: [src * petition] note: evidence collated appears to confirm that the below mentioned six children are all the children of John per Mangles Roger Sheedy bc.1812. [src * petition ] arrived N.S.W as free settler on the 14th Nov 1834 per Blenheim with brothers Thos and John. supposed to have married Cath Creany no marriage located NSW. Thomas Sheedy bc.1814. [src * petition] arrived N.S.W as free settler on the 14th Nov 1834 per Blenheim with bros Roger and John. probably Thomas m Elizabeth Dempsey Eleanor Sheedy bc.1816. [src * petition] arrived N.S.W with mother on the Andromeda alledged to have married Anthony Murray. death date possibly: d?. 1878 Burrowa.age 83. [no 4956] d?. 1876 Burrowa. [no 5321] parents: John and Mary.[not stated if Sheedy on index] issue: [not confirmed] 1.Bridget b 1839.Sydney. [no v1839 311 133] 2?.Mary A b 1864.Windsor. [no v1864 3046 71] John Sheedy bc.1818. [src * petition] arrived N.S.W as free settler on the 14th Nov 1834 per Blenheim with bros Thos and Roger. married Bridget Shea Mary Sheedy bc.1820. [src * petition] arrived N.S.W per Andromeda with mother. supposedly married 1837 at Windsor. m. 1837.Windsor. [no V1837 7323-90] Michael Sheedy bc.1824.Kilfinan? [src * petition] arrived N.S.W in 1834.with mother per Andromeda probably Michael m Margaret McIntyre Family Researchers/Informants: Eileen Williamson Catherine Burke Notes * = sighted original record. arrived: per Mangles 1826. tried: Cork. 26/8/1825. Life Sentence. crime: forging notes. no previous convictions. age: 40 [born c 1785] native of: Limerick religon: Roman catholic status: married with 6 children. occupation: farmers labourer. height: 5'8. complexion: ruddy hair: brown/grey eyes: grey remarks on indent: well. con: Fiche no: 660. file no: 397. shelf no:4/4011 page 028 note: also Edward Sheehy on this vessel. fiche no:660 file no: 397. shelf no:4/4011 page 029
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John 'Mangles'  Sheedy and Mary Dinan
Preface by Jenny Fawcett

please note: these families are still under research and no information
should be regarded as authentic unless confirmed by official sources.

John Sheedy, per Mangles is alledged to be one of six brothers 
who came to New South Wales as transported convicts, generally 
attributed to their activities in political crimes in Ireland.

The brothers have been the subject of a study by Mr Sydney 
Sheedy,a descendant of one of the brothers. This resulted in 
the lodgement of a manuscript at the Mitchell Library of what 
is generally referred to as the  "Sheedy Diaries" 
Sydney Sheedy claims to have had access to the diaries of 
James Sheedy, one of the brothers, who was a member of a secret 
united irishman political group, and held the position of secretary.
Sydney has compiled the manuscript which is supposedly a history of 
the United Irishmen in Australia, and includes a section relating 
to the Sheedy families in New South Wales.

There is confusion reigning about the accuracy of Syd's attempts
to relate known information on Sheedy families with those people
mentioned in the diaries.

Syd Sheedy claimed that John Sheedy who arrived per Mangles
was married to a Mary Farraday.

In 1828, John Sheedy Mangles, petitioned the governor of
New South Wales to allow for his family to come to Australia. In
the course of this document he states his wife was Mary Sheedy nee 
Dinan, that he married her during Shrovetide, in Feb 1809
at Kilfinan Co Limerick.A copy of the petition can be found
at the Mitchell Library, and has been transcribed below.

Syd alledged that Mrs John Sheedy returned to Ireland after the 
death of John, via Melbourne,on the Shamrock, having been
accompanied to Melbourne  by her son Thomas. There is also no 
evidence of this to date. A Mr and Mrs Thomas Sheedy did arrive
in Melbourne from Sydney but this was
Thomas Sheedy m Catherine Costello.

Syd Sheedy claimed that Thomas Sheedy [m Cath Costello] was the
son of John per Mangles and Mary Farraday, and that he 
arrived per Blenheim in 1834. Research indicates that
the Thomas Sheedy who did arrive on the Blenheim was 
indeed John per Mangles' son, but the Thomas Sheedy who
married Catherine Costello is not the same man. Thomas m
Catherine Costello was a shoemaker by trade, he arrived on the
Aliquis in 1839 to NSW, then moved to Victoria, he was
well known to police and his gaol records confirm the name
of the ship he arrived on as the Aliquis


There are  other Thomas Sheedy's that may fit with being the son of 
John,especially being Thomas m Johanna Jordan/Elizabeth Dempsey.
For distanglement of the Thomas Sheedy's.
see the Profile Section and research
is still underway on those families.

John Sheedy's wife,Mary Dinan, arrived in New South Wales per
Andromeda  in 1834, accompanied by her children Eleanor,
Michael and Mary. Her other sons had previously arrived on
the Blenheim as free immigrants.

For this biography, I am using contemporary records, but there
is room for more research to be done to document this family 
correctly.

John Sheedy wrote in 1828 that character references could be
obtained from Mr Oliver JP, of Kilfinnane. He is also believed
to be associated with the United Irishmen. Therefore, he would
have had knowledge of the Staker Wallace incident near Kilfinnane,
which also mentions that the Olivers were the major landowners
in the region.It might be an uncle/relative of John Sheedy who
was with Oliver when they went to arrest Staker Wallace.
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John Sheedy - 
born c:		c1786.Ireland.		[convict indent.age 40]
		c1786 if John Sheedy died 1835.
		c1778.			[1828 cencus.age 50]

parents:	not known.
religon:	Roman Catholic		[convict indent]
		
occupation:	1826.Farmers Labourer.Ireland. pre 1826. 
				        [convict indent]
		c1828.wood carter.South Head .NSW.
		 also working for W.Taylor.[petition]
		1834.working at the dockyards, Sydney [petition]
		    .working for Dennis Walsh, York St Sydney.
					[wife's emigrant arrival]

literacy:	convict indent states no literacy, though
		petition in 1828 is written in an educated
		hand and signed the same by John Sheedy.

death:		either,John Sheedy,born c1786, 
                died 26 August 1835.[49y] 
		Buried Old Windsor Cemetery 
		source: McLellands Books. Vol 4 Bk 9
		or
		John Sheedy died 27/9/1842 buried under 
		Faraday Sheedy Windsor Cemetery ?  	
burial:

shipping arrival: 
		convict per Mangles,[fourth trip,]
                to N.S.W.
		arrival date: 18th Feb 1826.
		CONVICT NO___29
		AGE__________40years 
		CRIME________Fogery Notes	
		note that there was also an Edward Sheehy
		on this vessel as a convict.
			
married:	Mary Dinan			[*petition ]
date: 		February [Shrovetide] 1809,by the 
		the Reverend Mr Dilane .Parish Priest of Kilfinan.
						[*petition]
History:

1826. 	transported to New South Wales per Mangles, on a
      	charge of forging notes.It would be ideal to obtain from 
      	the newspaper in Ireland an account of his trial, charges 
      	and etc.

1828 	Census: John Sheady [50]  per Mangles
		    at Telegraph .Sth Head. 		[ref 0596]
	     John Sheedy per Mangles - Lighthouse.
	     John Mangles,Mangles 1825, life - catholic - 
	     age 50 occupation: Telegraph. South Head. 	no's 0584]

     	Petition: 
	states working as a wood carter for W.Taylor.[see next]

	John petitions for family to be allowed to emigrate
	"1828.21st May .				
	
	To his Excellency ,Lieutenant General Ralph Darling,
	Governer and Commissioner in Chief [New South Wales] 
	
	The Petition of John Sheedy
	Most humbly sheweth

	that in 1826 your excellency's petitioner arrived in the 
	Colony  by the Ship Mangles [4th journey]a prisoner 
	for life and  has since been in Government Employ at South 
	Head and has always supported a fair character as servant 
	[to W.Taylor, to carry wood] that your Excellency's petitoner 
	being desirous of having his family which he will be well able 
	to support sent out to him here he most humbly solicits your 
	Excellency's permission for that purpose and shall as in duty 
	bound ever pray
 				John Sheedy
 				Sydney 6th march 1828."

	Jas Mitchell, Liet. in N.S.W.Royal Veterans 
	as to Character at South Head under my charge.

	Petiton goes on to list marriage date, and children's ages as 
	listed elsewhere here.	Also states that references could 
	be obtained from The Revd Mr Neville, Rector of Kilfinnan and 
	C.D.Oliver,Equire,J.P at Kilfinnan.			
	[src:AONSW. Colonial Secretary's In Letters 28/4059]

	a notation on the petition by government officials records:-
	Nothing records [against John Sheedy] by May 19th 1828 .
	Not At Present	[meaning John may not have his family sent yet]
	31st of May. informed for the purpose of communicating.

1834. Index to Conditional Parsons & Tickets of Leave 1810-1875
      John Sheedy Mangles 1826. no 34/833 reel 938 shelf 
      922/4/4095

      Stated in a letter to son Roger that he was working at the
      dockyard at Sydney.			
			[AONSW Reel 2198. 4/2242.3  34/8275]

	John's wife Mary Sheedy arrives per Andromeda
	In a letter addressed to the Colonial Secretary which had
	been written by Henry Kelsall, Surgeon Superintendant of
	the convict ship Andromeda, he records a list of
	women who had arrived FREE by that vessell, and this
	includes the name of Mrs Sheedy,Mary stated that her
	husband was working for Dennis Walsh, York Street, Sydney:-

	Andromeda, Female Convict Ship. Port Jackson. 
	 17th Sept 1834.
	Sir,
	   I have the honor to transmit to you, a list of the
	free women who are on board the Andromeda, accompanied
	by all the information I could obtain from them, relative
	to their husbands.
	And am sir
		your obedient servant
		Henry Kelsall
		Surgeon Superintendant. 
	List of Free Women & etc etc
	Name. /Name of Ship her husband came in./In Whose Service

	Mrs Sheedy. Does Not Know.		with Dennis Walsh
						York St. Sydney "
	

Children - 6:					[src * petition]
note: evidence collated appears to confirm that the below mentioned
six children are all the children of John per Mangles

Roger Sheedy	bc.1812.			[src * petition ]
		arrived N.S.W as free settler on the 14th Nov 1834
		per Blenheim with brothers Thos and John.
		supposed to have married  Cath Creany
		no marriage located NSW.
	 
Thomas Sheedy	bc.1814.			[src * petition]
		arrived N.S.W as free settler on the 14th Nov 1834
		per Blenheim with bros Roger and John.
		probably Thomas m Elizabeth Dempsey
	
Eleanor Sheedy	bc.1816.			[src * petition]
		arrived N.S.W with mother on the Andromeda
		alledged to have married  Anthony Murray.
		death date possibly:
		  d?. 1878 Burrowa.age 83.	[no 4956]
		  d?. 1876 Burrowa.		[no 5321]	
		parents: John and Mary.[not stated if Sheedy on index]
		issue: [not confirmed]
		  1.Bridget  b 1839.Sydney.	[no v1839 311 133]
		  2?.Mary A  b 1864.Windsor.	[no v1864 3046 71]

John Sheedy	bc.1818.			[src * petition]
		arrived N.S.W as free settler on the 14th Nov 1834
		per Blenheim with bros Thos and Roger.
		married Bridget Shea

Mary Sheedy	bc.1820.			[src * petition]
		arrived N.S.W per Andromeda  with mother.
		supposedly married 1837 at Windsor.
		m. 1837.Windsor.		[no V1837 7323-90]

Michael Sheedy	bc.1824.Kilfinan?		[src * petition]
		arrived N.S.W in 1834.with mother per Andromeda 
		probably Michael m Margaret McIntyre
		

Family Researchers/Informants:
Eileen Williamson
Catherine Burke


Notes
* = sighted original record.
arrived:	per Mangles  1826.
tried:		Cork. 26/8/1825. Life Sentence.
crime:		forging notes.
no previous 	convictions.

age:		40  [born c 1785]
native of:	Limerick
religon:	Roman catholic
status:		married with 6 children.
occupation:	farmers labourer.
height:		5'8.
complexion:	ruddy
hair:		brown/grey
eyes:		grey
remarks on indent: well.

con: Fiche no: 660. file no: 397. shelf no:4/4011  page 028
note: also Edward Sheehy on this vessel.
     fiche no:660   file no: 397. shelf no:4/4011  page 029

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